All Comments on 'Things We Said Today'

None of your usual humor in this story; but a realization of the importance of trust in a marriage.

Boyd

Finally, an enlightened man that realizes that you don't have to be married, (or faithful) to a fuck buddy, AND that a man can continue the hunt for a decent women without obsessing over some slut that he used to be married to. Great story, great ending!

Bland moralizing with no zing.

You nailed it.... and her.

Great as always. Once a cheater always at least in your mind and thats what counts. Thanks!

Nice heart warming story, very entertaining. Alvaron53 sounds like a softcock...

Will admit he was a bit more civil with the slut than I would have been. You didnt mention the months of STD and AIDS testing once he found out what she had been doing. Amber in mentioning it had been going on for a year really did slam the door. I am glad he got to spend the holiday with her and fuck her brains out. She needed it to grow up and realize what she had really done to the marriage. I hate to hear people say they are going to make it up to you. How can a person go back in time and erase what has happened, then go into you mind and soul and erase the memories and emotions. It cant be done, yep they can give you better sex, until they figure they have you hooked again. But to live 24/7 not totally trusting someone who has already proved they are untrustworthy, live is to short to spend wasting time on a loser. Actually Amber sounded more like what he would need as a wife than she did. Amber had at least realized she had messed up and was willing to accept the blame and try to move up. The ex just wanted back what she had fucked away.

fantasy world is that fantasy and people make a world that get them in trouble.this was a story with consequences and let you know you play,you have to pay.thanks for bring some type of sameness to this site.this all about me generation of people make me sick,what in it for me,get what i can and fuck over who ever at all cost.please write more stories on this site.

when remembering and drawing lessons over such a dark subject. But you did it!

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you have your finger on the trigger here, how can anyone

restore trust once it has been lost?? I love reconciliation but always wonder if it makes any kind of sense in real life. It seems to me that there is no going back...

little thing out of the story--That he screwed six other women before he caught her with her one. Ditto the morraly outraged commentor below.

I was glad to see there was a story by HD. But there wasn't the satisfaction or a smile that I've come to expect after reading one of his stories. This one was not funny or tender or full of witt. This was simply a realistic story that left me feeling sad.

This was a good look at a man who knows he still sees the house on fire though the land has been cleared and it is ready for a new foundation. He doesn’t want to live in the neighborhood anymore as the memory of that fire leaves shivers in him. Maybe someday the fire will be just a bad memory but for now it is best to let the land lay barren and move to a new neighborhood.<P>The future can bring piece not only in forgiveness but also in a well placed forgetfulness of the red hot pain. Life offers so many new possibilities once we let go of pain and search for new experiences.<P>Thank you for the entertianment<P>PT

Always something interesting from this author - thanks! And we also agree, Alvaron53 is spouting his typical mindless drivel once again.

Trust is so easily lost and so very difficult to regain. Janice would have been better off using the week with Jeff to talk about why she had the affair, why it would never happen again and offering her mea culpa to Jeff rather than giving him pussy on a platter, apparently thinking that great sex equates to a great relationship.

very much enjoyed it.

if she wanted his shoes under her bed ...she shouldnt have parked them uns=der someone elses ...whe nshe fucked his best friend ...hes right yes he can fuck her but he cant trust her ...so yes a friend with benefits is what his ex wife is ....she would have to stay faithful for many years while he fucked around to regain trust ...that would be the only way ...not to fuck others but allow me t oas a man needs sex ...a woman that wants a man must do without ..lol otherwise the trust issue

IS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC AND I HOPE YOU CAN FIND A CONTINUATION OF IT.

The most important thing in a relation is trust whether it's work, friends or a wife. When that trust is broken , no matter how great the wronged person is, paranoia sets in. He would always live with the specter of her cheating again. He would

act differently to the least little thing. A friend could say something innocent yet the husband would read something else in it in the back of his mind. It might not be in the fore but it would still be there and affect realtionships. No the best thing to do is to divorce. If the ex wants some cock then let him give it to her. It's much better than a whore which is what he would treat her like...WHICH SHE IS

Realistic in many ways. I always look forward to a story by Harddaysknight.

Once again we get a fine story from the master of realism with humour. She did everything wrong and he did everything right. Well done again!

That was well written for a minute i thought Janice would pull him back into her clutches .

pat

<p>...covered something that I've always said. About the fear of being hurt again</p>

<p>Some people can understand someone who has a fear of heights. They can understand someone with a fear of water, bugs, or even the fear of flying. But when someone totally rips their heart out, they can't understand the fear of not letting themselves ever be hurt by that person again</p>

<p>It's the same type of fear, and like those I mentioned, not everyone understands or accepts someone elses fears, but they should at least respect the fears of the other person, and your story made it easier to understand why one person might develop a fear they really don't want to ever experience again. Like where one person who almost drowned having a fear of water, where someone else might being willing to jump in the water again.</p>

<p>Nice story, kudos</p>

-Risq

Please keep it there. No sequel will improve it.

Maybe because I've read so many forced reconciliation stories, but that seemed to be where this was going. Happily, you proved me wrong.

Thanks Author - there is anticipation of a good kind when reading you and a few others. You attempt to reflect life and consequence and do it as well or better than any other here or elsewhere.<P>

Next - I was pleased with your timing as it has been awhile. Without giving you a big head, your responsible efforts are greatly appreciated for their entertainment value as well as the proper slice of life avoided by most here.<P>

As the comments reflect, 99.9% of us appreciate a non-malicious - non-extreme rendering of some form of justice in what happens millions of times a year here in the US.<P>

Very Rarely is the spouse happily pimping his whore - very rarely is he a doormat to her intended male humiliation - very rarely does he seek self demeaning humiliation. All those aforementioned sick fetishes are very uncomfortable to 99.9% of us - there is no arousal. <P>

Only anger can result from a normal, real human seeing those absurdities touted as fantasies.<P>

So Author - You are rightfully regarded as a Primo Story Teller - - one of a very few here and as such rightfully appreciated for your talent and subject matter which millions of us can relate to and / or hope to avoid - again.<P>

With Very High Regard [ & in hopes of more reality at interval]<P>

PS - Perhaps you could nudge rp to get off his duff. You, the celt, Jack Straw, ohio, The Wanderer, DG Hear, Dinsmore, Bazzza, Blue88, Curious2c, Coaster2, Agena, Salamis and 5 or 6 others are greatly looked forward to for your talented reflections of life as it really is.

I've waited for another of your great stories, and you did not disappoint. Although Janice wasn't happy with the outcome, I feel she got more than she deserved with Jeff's offer of friendship "with benefits". A one time slip could possibly be forgiven, but not a longstanding affair. An affair presumes an emotional attachment, and that would be hard for any man to forgive. He has finally manaqed to overcome his undeserved feelings of inadequacy. Why would he place himself in a position to suffer that again. Maybe in the future a reconciliation could be justified, but I doubt it. Fine effort. Paul

One little missing detail. Why was she late? She was fucking somebody... He'll be glad he didn't fall for it.

Another excellent story.<br><br>Was the wife being totally manipulative, totally genuine or a combination of both with her attempts at getting the husband back? I think that if the story had continued, the wife would have withdrawn from the husband because of his rejection of her. She had a plan of getting him back which he didn't follow. I think that a "friend with benifits" arrangement wasn't what she would settle for after all.<br><br>The husband's trust issues certainly are understandable.

And you still speak in a "man's voice" better than 99.999% of Lit writers.

Thank you

HDK gives us another great story. In fact the husband has made out better than he probably would have in real life--thank Goodness for the women who were eager to assuage his loneliness!

I find his lack of trust in his ex-wife utterly convincing. He may still love her, desire her, and appreciate her--but he recognizes that he just doesn't trust her anymore, and for very good reasons. You don't simply forget the woman in your life cheating on you for months...not even a week of a great vacation and lots of sex will make those feelings go away.

Thanks, HDK, as always!

ohio

This was good but seemed darker than some of your other works. I did liked that the husband ended up making out better than his ex, and she learned what she lost. I thought it was a good look at how they would not have trust and their interaction would be affected forever. Thank you for your time and words.

One of the things I really enjoy about HDK is the way his stories are brief and to the point. He does not need to repeat and repeat the same thing; he gets the same information to the reader of his stories that many other authors provide in stories twice as long. The fact that I agree with his point of view most of the time (i.e., I would hope to act pretty similarly to his main male character if faced with the same situation) certainly does not hurt, either. HDK also manages to put some wit and humor into his stories, adding to the reader's overall enjoyment. Now sometimes the humor is sarcasm; obviously, infidelity and breakup of a marriage is not funny. But he does it in such a way that it really works in his stories. Thank you for another good read and please keep writing.

Many of the reconciliation-at-all-costs confuse forgiveness with absolution with regards to the injured party. Cheating is a betrayal of basic values. If Jeff did not deeply value fidelity in his marriage then Janice's actions could be noted as just bad judgement (she did carry on with his best friend). When the spouse's action causes you to not trust her or him the relationship is toast.

<p>This story was so ‘on message’ that near the end I completely identified with the husband. I too was wondering if his ex were sneaking off to visit someone during her supposed trip to the salon.</p>

<p>By the last 3 sentences I felt that the ex-wife was beginning to understand the true cost of her adultery. How sad it is to never again be trusted by one you love.</p>

<p>P.S: If titles are important, this one was a perfect fit for the story</p>

Gotta admit, I, too, was thinking the same thing---was she meeting someone?? Couldn't have worked out any worse for Janice, though, if Mike had accidentally shown up.. I think most men might feel the same..

THE MONEY...I was thinking the same thing...Much better than those sappy stories where the husband is ready to jump right back into a cuckold relationship and be shit upon again and again...

If someone asked me what is the most characteristic quality of your stories I'd say the surprise and the art in the narrative which builds and enables it. It's not a pre condition for a good story of course. Sometimes you can see certain development coming and still enjoy it very much. But here there was not even that much of development to speak of. We start with post divorce and end in post divorce. It's the same disillusionment on the ex-husband part and the same regret on the ex-wife's part. Her one effort to change things did not stir things up enough (as evidenced in the ending). I can't believe I would say that (coming from someone who considers you as pretty much at the top of a very short of the writers list here) but there was not much of a story here, and no I most likely CAN’T write like HDK. But I do not despair. even the best (as I still consider you of course) have the relatively weaker works, and even here the narrative was a pleasure to read per each paragraph. Can't wait for your next story.

So glad you didn't wimp out and arrange a reconciliation. Janice's betrayal was too deep. The lies necessary to keep the affair going, the lack of loyalty. The ending was spot on: the trust is gone and beyond recall.

shame on you, twice - shame on me. he learned and she didn't

"It took about ten seconds to dispel the notion that my equipment wouldn't work with Janice. It was two hours later when we left the room. I discover that my experiences with other women had increased my confidence and my ability to please. I surprised Janet with a few new techniques I had picked up."

Can you spot the mistake here?

What is amazing is the economy in the author's tracing of the story and the dialogue.

I always enjoy your stories and this was no exception. As a typical minority opinion, I find husband fortunate that wife was cheating, otherwise he would be in big trouble since the only thing he actually saw was his wife having dinner with his best friend before he broke best friends jaw. If their meal was innocent husband would be in jail for assault and battery. Don't mind me. I'm a nitpicker by nature.

60 year old George

she may have genuinely changed, but that lingering doubt created by her. the actions needed to verify her statements would have been filled with un-needed expenditures of time, energy and money; and if that was needed, what's the point!

she did it and must live with the consequences of her actions/

Like the story but i don't know many people who could sleep with an EX that ruin their marriage sleeping with a best friend. just a little to far fetched.

But why did he only do it one time with Amber? He had wonderful chance to rub it in his wife's face by dating her for awhile.

I especially liked the line "We'd give divorce a bad name" :).

loved the ending. glad he saw through her attempt to lure him back through great sex. she destroyed the marriage now she has to pay the consequences. good to have her as a back up plan if he ever needs to get laid though

and at the same time, sad and real. I can certainly understand the attraction to the woman that shared your life for so many years. I can also understand that the lack of trust would prohibit a reconciliation. Well done.!!

The humiliation is thing. They can't understand that the trust that was there before is there no longer.

A damn good one HDK.

Many men would have fallen into the trap. Yeah for the man who didn't. Well written. I enjoyed the angle the story came from, it enhanced the story.

Thank you.

Fuck her!!!! I liked it.

The things I really liked were twofold

One: he didn't need to see his wife taking it up the ass in his own bed to realize that she had moved on. All it took was a lie, a look and another companion.

Second: his awareness. When I read the story about her lounging by the pool and being late from the sauna, I was thinking that the story was going to go in the direction of her continuing her flirting and fucking around.

Instead you nailed it. If I was thinking that, how could the ex husband not think that? And it wasn't the actions but the doubt that would weigh in his mind.

To thine own self be true,

He didn't get arrested for assualt so I gave it a 1.

I love it when the other man gets his due and then has the fotitude to suck it up. I love it when a betrayed husband actually has a spine and doesn't fall for the cheating wife's tears of regret. This was a very good story. Good job harddaysknight.

"He didn't get arrested for assualt so I gave it a 1."

This is not the way to assess plot, character, or the quality of the writing.

This person is obviously mentally unbalanced or just loves to be spiteful toward the wonderful LW writers.

Why do the rest of us have to read this tripe? Can this person not be blocked from commenting? Other sites block inappropriate commentary.

Just re-read this great 'payback' story and it is still a top tale.

...what an asshat was. Then DWornock arrived.

and a long time into the future. TK U MLJ LV NV

The snake gets the perfect punishment: access to the one she loves and yet totally denied what she truly yearns for, unconditional love from the only man she ever really loved.

Not by HDK's story, but by DWornock's comment. Does he seriously believe that every fight results in an assault charge? And that's his basis for rating a very good story a 1? It just doesn't make sense. First, Mike followed his "best friend" into the restroom. He initiated the contact with no witnesses. So it would be a he said, he said. Second, Mike would have had to report the assault to the police. He might be feeling just a little guilty, don't you think? So it's certainly plausible that no assault charges would be filed, even if this were real life and not a story. Third, an assault would have no bearing on the story the author was telling. So why would he include it? He didn't tell about the mole on his mother-in-laws butt either, yet DWornock didn't complain about that. The only thing that I can think of is that DWornock is a troll and doesn't really believe what he writes. A troll is someone on the Internet who enjoys writing inflammatory things just to get people worked up. Why this is enjoyable to trolls, I have no idea. So either DWornock is a troll, or just not too bright. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

She wanted it, she got it.

However, she would never have his trust again, ergo, no marriage.

Aw.

Fuck 'er

HA

he smoked the fat cock, his cornhole got a reaming, betrayed!

Not just it's value in general but it's importance in a relationship cannot be overstated - and this story is the embodiment of that concept.

He is getting some nice treatment from a woman he truly enjoys spending time with - winner. He gets to go places with a woman that is a pleasure to be around - winner, He gets to go home to a peaceful unstressed home with no fear of drama or betrayal - winner

She gets to spend time with the man she now knows she desperately needs - winner. She gets to see him spend time with him enjoy his loving attention - winner. She has to go home in the end alone and unsatisfied with her life - her own fault, her own actions her own failure and know she blew it - WINNER! Oh wait that one was for the rest of us lol

You have NOTHING

any why would she even think it could happen. TK U MLJ LV NV

Until the flight back from the Keys. Now she knows the marriage is unrepairable. Thank You.

... it was so similar to my story. In short; my wife cheated, we divorced then she tried to get back together. I agreed to a friend with benefits arrangement, but she didn't care for the "Bull Pen" and issued an all or nothing ultimatum. I have seen or talked to her in nine years.

Panther Fan.

They cheat and think nothing of it and expect you to just roll over when found out. But if they even think you might be cheating, there is no forgiveness.

That one hit home. In my experience with women; girlfriends, a wife and two daughters - they are much more flexible with reality than men are. Women seem to have the ability to deceive others as well as themselves with little or no emotional consequences. Men on the other hand clearly identify friend or foe and keep track of threats. It is in a man's nature to protect his home, and his family. When the enemy turns out to be from within it is a hard hit to absorb. Trust is key to mutual survival. If you can't trust your partner to remain faithful how can you trust her with the family finances? What happens if you get sick? Will she be there for you? She can't keep another guys cock out of her pussy, how can you trust her with the big survival issues? Especially after many years of marriage and children, to find out that someone has cheated on you undermines the foundation of the marriage. How can you really know what else has happened? How many secrets has she betrayed? How much money has been embezzled? Once the trust is gone - the relationship is dead.

that many RAAC writers on this site and unfortunately many men out there can not see it as simple as this, she cheats and the trust as gone, and without the trust there is no marriage

five stars

So many men in your stories get physically sick and end up vomiting when confronted with their wifes infidelity. My own experience is diferent, when I caught my wife in bed with her lover I wanted to punch her and her lover, however not wanting to go to jail I refrained. I did however grab her lover by the hair and physically remove him from the house.

Just like this story my wife has tried to get us to reconcile, fat chance.

Hardaysknight you write entertaining stories but please no more vomiting heroes.

He uses her like a free of charge escort girl. Qhml1 wrote a similar end story.

a 5 star story.

He should have taken pleasure from her pain, a mate cheats lies and cuts you to the quick, her/his cries and begging are the sound of child's laughter pure joy, so why do so many fear confrontation... look at how we are raising men(by women),dont get upset ,dont respond,dont confront, be passive, dont judge, just go along. The reason men are so weak in some stories(be side the writting) is because it is what we have be turned into by women/media and there slaves..honor ,duty,respect do not belong in the military alone..women passed the no bullying law and look you cant even fight back any more but yet in the TV and in life the girls all fuck the bad boy but want the nice one to pay for the life they led. Ive got a lot of married nice buddies trapped in the feminist cunt trap and they are raising the boys the same way..we now have a generation of sheep and when they snap we get school shooting...you cant punish your kid, you cant fight back, divorce always hurts the victims(no fault shit)... and then you have your mate..kids yours?...its just sex?...because you tell the bad person in the marriage to fuck off and hold them accountable your an asshole? People enjoy destroying he bad guy/woman if we dont accept the fact we hate scum and fight them and enjoy the freedom and their defeat .. we are going to LOSE IT!

Just frickin' perfect. No one, neither man nor woman, can ever be trusted again once they are cheaters. I have a dog in this fight, so I know.

My wife was cheated on by her first boyfriend, a young man I knew well. Everyone knew he was cheating with everything he could stick his dick in, except his girlfriend, my wife to be, someday. When she found out she was devastated, as could be expected, she was sure he was the one to grow old with and have his children. After a few weeks apart, he found he was needing pussy so took my wife to be back for a few weeks while he pounded her night and day. Sure enough, he cheated again and a few months later, she and I got together. Its been 36 years, almost 37 and I heard her tell a classmate of hers once, she hasn't thought about him again, except as a cheater.

But I was hoping for more. Simply because Things We Said Today is my favourite Beatles song (~grin).

but humiliation of the other parts will always feel good, TK U MLJ LV NV

This is another thoughtful, well written read. 5*

Regards,

-Pultoy

You are dead on with your size up of broken relationships! Having a person that you can trust as your partner trumps everything else!

The thing about a cheater is that you can fool yourself enough too decide to trust them

It's just that the reality is you can't trust them.

there wasn't much of a prelude to this story. if her only betrayal, was having a dinner with his best friend, and it was the first time. over reaction is the word that comes to mind, about his original divorce, and should reconsider his stand.

@Tootight1 - Maybe you only read the last half of the story or something. The wife was cheating with him for about a year:

"That's great advice from a slut wife that carried on with her husband's best friend ....for about a year, wasn't it? Who the hell were you thinking about, Janice, when you slept with Mike"

When trust and respect are lost, no marriage can survive...

Alas, he figured it out that trust is the foundation of a relationship between a man and a women.

George in Omaha

Short, but "nuff said", and made the point. You don't know what you've got until you lose it.

Kendra had been furious at her mother, but never really turned her away. Her love for her mother was possibly more pure than my husbandly love, but then Kendra's love didn't require fidelity. - this is one of the most creative lines i read on this site for sometime now.

She doesn’t have to be his “enemy”, but he doesn’t have to take her back, either!

“No strings”? HA!

Everything’s fun, now that he’s a free agent, but if they re-marry who’s to say she won’t cheat again?

Good for him, somehow I think when she loses hope completely she'll drop the FWB.

MAYBE there might have been some hope if the fling with Mike had been some sort of a drunken hook up with a stranger, but to LIE to him to set up a PLANNED tryst with his best friend?

That's just unforgivable.

This story is a classic example of why when one of a couple cheats, they should split, immediately and have little to do with one another again. The one who was cheated upon, no matter how much love is still involved, will have trust issues with them, no matter how long they stay together.

No, best to rip the bandage off and have a clean wound to heal properly. The one who was cheated up will still have trust issues going forth, but at least they won't have to be putting up with a proven cheater.

What did she expect? Once you cheat trust is gone.

Damn

He should have thanked her for the closure that she had provided him. He couldn't trust her, so there was no partnership in their future. More so, the divorce was done, there child was grown and she had proven she did not care about his well being. Was the fact that she was lonely and depressed that she had turned into an adulterous whore the reason why she wanted to get back with her husband and somehow "erase" her sleazy past? Certainly she had not cared about her husband or her daughter before. Oddly, the statement about her daughter still loving her had me baffled. Have you ever met a child whose parent cheated on his/her family? Children are most often the harshest critics of their parents. Adultery often warrants a death sentence in a child's mind. I have seen this logic used before on this site and it has been the opposite to my experience in life. You see, the children are cheated as well as the spouse! Get it? They are also cursed by being a blood relative to a cheater. That is reality.

and why she thought it would be any different. TK U MLJ LV NV

another great flash tale. Five stars.

I didn't get the tie in to the title. They said many things over many days.

Good one.

Finally, a man who understands what trust is. Once it's lost it is very, very difficult to get it back. A short story but it said everything that needed to be said. A guy that loved this woman but had to let her go for his own sanity...and he did. Thanks for a good story.